| Posted at 06:46 on June 2nd, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
 Admin Reborn Gumby Posts: 11583 | For a new script I'm writing, I need as much information as possible in advance. You can help collect that. Just go to http://goodolddays.net/up/system.php, copy the first line and paste it here (along with the information how the browser you've been using to access that page is called and which version it is - the copied signature can sometimes be deceiving). The more different 'browser signatures' I can get, the better the script will be! ----- Now you see the violence inherent in the system! |
| Posted at 07:04 on June 2nd, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Admin Reborn Gumby Posts: 11583 | I'm going to start it myself (so that I have all the information at the same place), but please don't hesitate to add your information even if it looks very similar to anything posted before - it's still important to me! Firebird 0.6: Quote: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030516 Mozilla Firebird/0.6 Netscape 4.8: Quote: Mozilla/4.8 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.20-pent-ide i686) Opera 7.11: Quote: Opera/7.11 (Linux 2.4.20-pent-ide i686; U) [en] Mozilla 1.0: Quote: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020605 Lynx: Quote: Lynx/2.8.4rel.1 libwww-FM/2.14 SSL-MM/1.4.1 OpenSSL/0.9.6c Links: Quote: Links (2.1pre7; Linux 2.4.20-pent-ide i686; 80x24) Konqueror 3.1: Quote: Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; Konqueror/3.1; Linux) Edited by Mr Creosote at 17:56 on June, 02nd 2003 ----- Now you see the violence inherent in the system! |
| Posted at 08:00 on June 2nd, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
 Member Retired Gumby Posts: 1007 | Quote: Browser: Opera/7.11 (Windows 98; U) [en] Quote: Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98) Edited by NetDanzr at 16:04 on June, 02nd 2003 ----- [b]NetDanzr[/b]<br /> [i]-The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog-[/i] |
| Posted at 10:23 on June 2nd, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
 Member Retired Gumby Posts: 936 | Opera 7.03 Quote: Browser: Opera/7.03 (Windows NT 5.1; U) [en] IE 6.0 Quote: Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; .NET CLR 1.0.3705) ----- [i]Keep your stick on the ice[/i] |
| Posted at 11:00 on June 2nd, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
 Member Prof Gumby Posts: 607 | Mozilla Firebird Quote: Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030526 Mozilla Firebird/0.6 Internet Explorer 6.0 Quote: Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1) ----- [i]"One Very Important Thought"[/i] |
| Posted at 07:14 on June 3rd, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
 Member Retired Gumby Posts: 964 | Two more... K-Meleon 0.7 Quote: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.2b) Gecko/20021016 K-Meleon 0.7 Mozilla 1.2.1 German Quote: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; de-AT; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20021130 |
| Posted at 07:19 on June 3rd, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Retired Gumby Posts: 964 | ...and Phoenix 0.5 German Quote: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; de-DE; rv:1.3a) Gecko/20021207 Phoenix/0.5 |
| Posted at 08:11 on June 3rd, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Admin Reborn Gumby Posts: 11583 | Thanks to all of you so far, it it beginning to take shape  What I'd need in addition is some pre-1.0 Mozilla version. Could anyone supply that?----- Now you see the violence inherent in the system! |
| Posted at 08:19 on June 3rd, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Retired Gumby Posts: 1007 | Just for the record - I tried a few early Mosaic versions, but was told the page could not load. ----- [b]NetDanzr[/b]<br /> [i]-The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog-[/i] |
| Posted at 08:35 on June 3rd, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Admin Reborn Gumby Posts: 11583 | Could you try it again now? ----- Now you see the violence inherent in the system! |
| Posted at 08:45 on June 3rd, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Retired Gumby Posts: 1007 | Those browsers do not support the .php extension. ----- [b]NetDanzr[/b]<br /> [i]-The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog-[/i] |
| Posted at 09:12 on June 3rd, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Retired Gumby Posts: 964 | I've found some more browsers on CD...  Mozilla 0.93 Quote: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.3) Gecko/20010801 OffByOne 3.2.J.2 Quote: Mozilla/4.7 (compatible; OffByOne; Windows 98) Webster Pro V3.2 SlimBrowser 3.55 Quote: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt) |
| Posted at 09:27 on June 3rd, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Admin Reborn Gumby Posts: 11583 | Ok, so my suspicion about the older Mozillas was wrong. There apparantely is a browser (which is in common use) which identifies itself with the keyword "Gecko" (like all browsers using the Mozilla engine do), but there is no information about the version (the part after the rv). I guess I have to continue searching for that one. As for the other two, I think they're not all that important (since I doubt anyone really uses them), but it's good to have this information anyway ----- Now you see the violence inherent in the system! |
| Posted at 09:30 on June 3rd, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
 Member Retired Gumby Posts: 743 | Mozilla 1.1 plus multizilla plugin Quote: Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.1; MultiZilla v1.1.22) Gecko/20020826 k-meleon Version 0.7 Build 700 Compiled Thu Oct 31 00:54:24 2002 Quote: Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows NT) opera 7.0 build 2577 Quote: Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98) Opera 7.0 [en] opera 6.05 build 1140 Quote: Browser: Opera/6.05 (Windows 98; U) [en] These next 2 are IE frontends, my version of IE is Internet Explorer: 5.50.4134.600 ------------ avant 7.0.1.5 Quote: Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; Avant Browser [avantbrowser.com]) crazy browser 1.0.5 Quote: Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; Crazy Browser 1.0.5) -------------- And finally, using proxomitron to spoof websites: Quote: Browser: Space Bison/0.02 [fu] (Win67; X; SK) ----- At the end of the day, you're left with a bent fork & a pissed off rhino. |
| Posted at 09:33 on June 3rd, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Admin Reborn Gumby Posts: 11583 | Cypherswipe: Could you confirm this K-Meleon signature? As far as I know, this browser is Mozilla-based as well (Tapuak's post confirms this), but I don't see anything in your version to tell it apart from regular Internet Explorer....  ----- Now you see the violence inherent in the system! |
| Posted at 09:43 on June 3rd, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Retired Gumby Posts: 743 | Confirmed on all accounts. That is the exact signature your pages gives when I visit with k-meleon, and k-meleon is based on mozilla. Specifically: "Uses the Gecko rendering engine by the Mozilla Group Based on MfcEmbed" I just found the problem. I forgot that I had setup k-meleon to pretend to be IE. Here is the signature after telling it to identify as itself. Quote: Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.2b) Gecko/20021016 ----- At the end of the day, you're left with a bent fork & a pissed off rhino. |
| Posted at 09:44 on June 3rd, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Admin Reborn Gumby Posts: 11583 | Well, that is bad. Opera's 'spoofing' is easy to notice (it still says "Opera" in any case), but this is really something which is impossible to distinguish from the actual IE. What is the default identification setting for K-Meleon? How hard is it to change this? ----- Now you see the violence inherent in the system! |
| Posted at 09:47 on June 3rd, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Retired Gumby Posts: 743 | I'd say moderately difficult. It's done via scripting, not just checking an option, but the directions are on the website, and you just have to cut&paste the script. ----- At the end of the day, you're left with a bent fork & a pissed off rhino. |
| Posted at 09:48 on June 3rd, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Admin Reborn Gumby Posts: 11583 | But the default is the one Tapuak posted and not IE-spoofing? ----- Now you see the violence inherent in the system! |
| Posted at 09:51 on June 3rd, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Retired Gumby Posts: 743 | Yes, default is to identify as itself, not as IE. ----- At the end of the day, you're left with a bent fork & a pissed off rhino. |