Posted at 08:37 on April 7th, 2018 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Admin Reborn Gumby Posts: 11097 | Preference, I understand and agree with. Though saying "I could never play it because the floppy disk don't work"? ----- Now you see the violence inherent in the system! |
Posted at 14:21 on April 7th, 2018 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Master Gumby Posts: 131 | Originally posted by Mr Creosote at 08:37 on April 7th, 2018: Preference, I understand and agree with. Though saying "I could never play it because the floppy disk don't work"? Yes its only preference. I know that game is availaible on download or even ISO cd. I really wants to concentrate on buying complete games and sometime its kind of a hit or miss. XD (street fighter II is a real pain, cant play it) BUT sometime i get stuck with no other choices then getting a download. like Secret of monkey island "french" Ega version for dos. i played that version as a kid...and i NEVeR found it except in one abandonware :S so i guess....when i really looked everywhere...and there's no other choice im gonna bend my rules. or if the game cost an arm & leg XD ----- So much games...so little time.. now 425 boxed PC games. more coming ! |
Posted at 17:27 on April 7th, 2018 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Master Gumby Posts: 131 | Oh and im sending in later today -King Quest I AGI(720k) 1 disk -King quest II AGI Ver.2.2 (720k) 1 disk -King Quest IV AGI (720k) 3 disks stay tune for more tomorrow ----- So much games...so little time.. now 425 boxed PC games. more coming ! |
Posted at 18:44 on April 7th, 2018 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Admin Reborn Gumby Posts: 11097 | Well, I understand that Metal & Lace may not be the biggest priority on the "must play at any cost" list ----- Now you see the violence inherent in the system! |
Posted at 23:40 on April 7th, 2018 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Master Gumby Posts: 131 | Originally posted by Mr Creosote at 18:44 on April 7th, 2018: Well, I understand that Metal & Lace may not be the biggest priority on the "must play at any cost" list hehehe yes indeed ----- So much games...so little time.. now 425 boxed PC games. more coming ! |
Posted at 01:03 on April 8th, 2018 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Zombie Gumby Posts: 3881 | @escarioth, Added: King's Quest: Quest for the Crown (2573): Missing copy protection. v2.0F (AGI 2.245). Note: Wow, I was hoping you would upload this exact version! Ours is AGI 2.917. Thanks! As for that persistent little error you mentioned, it's actually copy protection scheme (deliberately introduced bad sectors/weak bits). In just a few words, without your original floppy this game will never run if copied or dumped using conventional tools. Could you please do it again using Teledisk? You can get it here. I'm not sure which version is the best, though, try both 2.15 and 2.16, I'd like to compare the results afterwards. Oh, and make sure you don't write any comments when the program asks you to. Just press ESC when that red window appears. King's Quest 4: The Perils of Rosella (2574): v2.2. Nice! Not added: King's Quest 2: This one is actually cracked, though, it should be copy protected, too. But that's not the reason I rejected it. It doesn't seem to come from the original disk, either. Was it overwritten or something? In every other way it matches ID 268 (same exact version). ----- Cheer up! Remember the less you have, the more there is to get. ----- Edited by Moebius at 03:14 on April 8th, 2018 |
Posted at 02:41 on April 8th, 2018 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Master Gumby Posts: 131 | Originally posted by Moebius at 01:03 on April 8th, 2018: @escarioth, Added: King's Quest: Quest for the Crown (2573): Missing copy protection. v2.0F (AGI 2.245). Note: Wow, I was hoping you would upload this exact version! Ours is AGI 2.917. Thanks! As for that persistent little error you mentioned, it's actually copy protection scheme (deliberately introduced bad sectors/weak bits). In just a few words, without your original floppy this game will never run if copied or dumped using conventional tools. Could you please do it again using Teledisk? You can get it here. I'm not sure which version is the best, though, try both 2.15 and 2.16, I'd like to compare the results afterwards. Oh, and make sure you don't make any comments when the program asks you to. Just press ESC when that red window appears. No prob ill check this tomorrow Originally posted by Moebius at 01:03 on April 8th, 2018: Not added: King's Quest 2: This one is actually cracked, though, it should be copy protected, too. But that's not the reason I rejected it. It doesn't seem to come from the original disk, either. Was it overwritten or something? In every other way it matches ID 268 (same exact version). i was a bit surprised about that, so i went into checking and you were right there's a sierra.com file that is 6 years diference with others. damn, prefer my games to stay with copy protection to force the use of password, insert disk or wheel code, etc to stay true to the way it was played. i guess this version needed to insert the disk to be able to play and i wasnt asked any password or to insert a disk.. so yeah this disk version seems cracked :/ aaah, sometime buying games from others leaves some bad surprises.... But at least i still have lots of other games to send just be sure to check carefully since i dont recall every ones of them i may have made permenant changes (dont worry i dont do that now , thanks to your warnings haha) ----- So much games...so little time.. now 425 boxed PC games. more coming ! |
Posted at 03:30 on April 8th, 2018 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Zombie Gumby Posts: 3881 | Quote: aaah, sometime buying games from others leaves some bad surprises.... Unfortunately, it is very easy to fake them and that disk is far from a good forgery, mind you. So you need to choose your seller carefully and also be up to date on such delicate matters like disk-based copy protection. I think we need to prepare a list of all such games and post it somewhere. Quote: But at least i still have lots of other games to send just be sure to check carefully since i dont recall every ones of them i may have made permenant changes Don't worry, I have a pretty sharp eye But like I said, there are ways to make it look perfect (like I did with Metal & Lace) and in such cases it's pretty much hopeless to trace anything. Sometimes I'm afraid that one day there will be some wise guy who will upload a ton of such fake images just to get easy points. The only hope is, he won't be as thorough and dedicated in doing that and I would still notice something weird ----- Cheer up! Remember the less you have, the more there is to get. |
Posted at 10:40 on April 8th, 2018 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Master Gumby Posts: 131 | Good, ill concentrate on making disk image, its a good way too for me to keep copys of all my disks ----- So much games...so little time.. now 425 boxed PC games. more coming ! |
Posted at 17:12 on April 8th, 2018 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Zombie Gumby Posts: 3881 | @Diestro, Added: Resolution 101 (2575): Both disks are one byte different from ID 2566. Weird. Note: It has the same "modified" PLAYERS.101 file with the same exact timestamp, so I'm not sure if this is actually a modification. Is this your own dump? If so, I doubt it's just a coincidence. Also, could you guys actually make a Teledisk dump of this? ----- Cheer up! Remember the less you have, the more there is to get. |
Posted at 18:11 on April 8th, 2018 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Master Gumby Posts: 131 | had a couple of minutes this morning so i prepared a new image for you guys. -Inca Vers 1.0 (10 disks) It SHOULD be correct, i dont remember touching the files of this game and every files were dated 1993 wich seems correct ----- So much games...so little time.. now 425 boxed PC games. more coming ! |
Posted at 19:30 on April 8th, 2018 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Zombie Gumby Posts: 3881 | @escarioth, Added: Inca (2576): Looks perfect, indeed, so I set it to Verified. Matches ID 1651 except the latter has modified disk 1 and 2 and one root entry on disk 2 seems to differ a bit, but I'm sure it's nothing to worry about. All other disks match perfectly. Unfortunately, your TD0 dump of KQ seems to be incomplete (both variants). Was there any error? It looks like it was interrupted. Perhaps it's having hard times swallowing this copy protection, but it shouldn't be acting like that. Which version of Teledisk did you use? I also suspect it could be a result of incompatible floppy drive (HD vs DD), I'm really not sure. But you should definitely try again. ----- Cheer up! Remember the less you have, the more there is to get. ----- Edited by Moebius at 20:40 on April 8th, 2018 |
Posted at 02:10 on April 9th, 2018 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Master Gumby Posts: 131 | Originally posted by Moebius at 19:30 on April 8th, 2018: @escarioth, Unfortunately, your TD0 dump of KQ seems to be incomplete (both variants). Was there any error? It looks like it was interrupted. Perhaps it's having hard times swallowing this copy protection, but it shouldn't be acting like that. Which version of Teledisk did you use? I also suspect it could be a result of incompatible floppy drive (HD vs DD), I'm really not sure. But you should definitely try again. version 2.16 works fine but 2.15 is not working well. king quest is stopping at 43/100. didnt notice at first since i was doing something while it was making .TDO hmm.. i tryed with both side option and it seem to hang at 5/100 and i get a message that there's a empty spot. then it goes on until 43/100 and says everything is done. should i try dos or side1 or side0 ? if you want every option tryed i can put them in a .rar and send it to you again. (dont worry i dont mind) oh and happy that Inca worked ill check for more uploads to do tomorrow ive still have lots to make ----- So much games...so little time.. now 425 boxed PC games. more coming ! |
Posted at 02:36 on April 9th, 2018 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Zombie Gumby Posts: 3881 | Quote: version 2.16 works fine but 2.15 is not working well. king quest is stopping at 43/100. didnt notice at first since i was doing something while it was making .TDO That's very strange. It should work. I really suspect it must be the version. What is your floppy drive's capacity exactly? Is it 360k or 1.2Mb? It's probably the latter, but I need to make sure. Perhaps, this type of copy protection can only be read by KryoFlux board and the like, I really don't know. Quote: should i try dos or side1 or side0 ? if you want every option tryed i can put them in a .rar and send it to you again. (dont worry i dont mind) Try 2.15. You know, if that doesn't work Pheonix could try making a TD0 file using your raw dump by injecting CP data from Leisure Suit Larry game, it's probably the same type of Sierra protection. But, of course, it's always best to dump the original disk. Quote: oh and happy that Inca worked ill check for more uploads to do tomorrow ive still have lots to make Cool ----- Cheer up! Remember the less you have, the more there is to get. ----- Edited by Moebius at 07:39 on April 9th, 2018 |
Posted at 02:48 on April 9th, 2018 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Master Gumby Posts: 102 | I always offer to dump disks for people willing to ship them to me (and cover return shipping.) Usually, in the US at least, the post office can set it up. They include a return label inside the package. I open the package, make a full dump of the disks, then mail the disks back to them (the dumps I e-mail, ftp, or file share to them, of course.) Most people usually don't want to cover the shipping, or don't trust me. And really, I can't provide anything to prove that trust, so I don't blame them. But, the offer is always there. I'd cover return shipping, but being on disability, at $750/month, I don't really want to make that sort of commitment. Just what I need, a commitment to ship 50 packages by the end of the month, and only able to afford 5 or so, at most |
Posted at 21:20 on April 9th, 2018 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Student Gumby Posts: 22 | @Moebius, Originally posted by Moebius at 17:12 on April 8th, 2018: Resolution 101 (2575): Both disks are one byte different from ID 2566. Weird. Maybe I wasn't clear enough in the notes I left with the upload. It is not a different version from ID 2566, but since that set wasn't working due to missing copy-protection, I fixed both images to make them usable. Originally posted by Moebius at 17:12 on April 8th, 2018: Note: It has the same "modified" PLAYERS.101 file with the same exact timestamp, so I'm not sure if this is actually a modification. Is this your own dump? I just mentioned the timestamp players.101 on the second disk because it's two years older than the release of the game. I'm pretty certain it was modified during play, but must be replaceable with the corresponding copy on disk 1. So, please, don't assign a separate image set ID (2575) but add those images to set 2566 (if you feel it helpful) so downloaders can actually play the game. |
Posted at 00:31 on April 10th, 2018 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Master Gumby Posts: 131 | New upload coming up ! -X-com : UFO defense (3 disks) 1.44mo -Tetris 1987 (1 disk) 720k -Thimbleweed Park special disk 1.44mo about thimbleweed its not the whole game , just the extra disk 3.5" that came with the special edition box, if you prefer not adding it thats ok ----- So much games...so little time.. now 425 boxed PC games. more coming ! |
Posted at 06:06 on April 10th, 2018 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Zombie Gumby Posts: 3881 | @Diestro, Quote: Maybe I wasn't clear enough in the notes I left with the upload. It is not a different version from ID 2566, but since that set wasn't working due to missing copy-protection Hm. I see now. Unfortunately, yes, you weren't clear enough, because you only said "CP removed". That's what happens when you dump them as ordinary raw images. Yes, this way you actually "remove CP". Kind of. That's for one thing. Second, I DID try to run it and it failed just like the other one from fuxxxyfloppy (I tested it in VirtualBox). However, just to prove your point I installed disk 2 (EGA) this time and it worked. Apparently, VGA one doesn't run in VirtualBox (ironically), so I ran it in 86box and it worked, too. And third, why would anyone crack those and send them again? Not that it's a forbidden practice, but it's just a little unusual. So, all these points together contributed to my false perception of it. You should've been clear on two things: 1) You actually CRACKED the game, 2) You used the same very set from fuxxxyfloppy. I didn't see any of that. Quote: I just mentioned the timestamp players.101 on the second disk because it's two years older than the release of the game. I'm pretty certain it was modified during play, but must be replaceable with the corresponding copy on disk 1. It's all clear now and I know it can be replaced. Thanks for spotting it, though, I didn't pay attention to it, at least because the game had missing CP. However, right now I cannot do it, because we have a policy to approve or reject: /forum/topic.php?id=3736 Do us a favor and tell us what you think. Quote: So, please, don't assign a separate image set ID (2575) but add those images to set 2566 (if you feel it helpful) so downloaders can actually play the game. That cannot be done at all, I'm afraid. Though it hasn't ever been announced (yet), but cracked images should be treated as individual entities and they cannot supersede/replace the originals. They are perfectly eligible, though, just that we still need the original files playable or not at least for restoration and verification purposes, now that we are preparing to launch support for non-raw files like Teledisk. I will just put down some notes in the comments saying that it's actually cracked. @escarioth, Nothing added this time, my friend. Tetris is the same as ID 1264, only HIGH file is different (both are modified, though). X-com is the same as ID 754, which is now Verified. Thanks! Thimbleweed Park spritesheet disk. Um.. this game is from 2017. And you had this floppy included with it? That's really weird, because they are not released anymore. Where did this other guy get a floppy... WHY did he write the characters' spritesheets on it.. I don't suppose the floppy is originally branded, is it? Because that would be a little too much too swallow ----- Cheer up! Remember the less you have, the more there is to get. ----- Edited by Moebius at 07:53 on April 10th, 2018 |
Posted at 11:15 on April 10th, 2018 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Master Gumby Posts: 131 | Originally posted by Moebius at 06:06 on April 10th, 2018: Thimbleweed Park spritesheet disk. Um.. this game is from 2017. And you had this floppy included with it? That's really weird, because they are not released anymore. Where did this other guy get a floppy... WHY did he write the characters' spritesheets on it.. I don't suppose the floppy is originally branded, is it? Because that would be a little too much too swallow ooh yes it has a 1.44mo disk include ^_^ look at this link, i got that exact same kit http://www.insert-coin.fr/unboxing/unboxing-thimbleweed-park-collectors-game-box/# but if you prefer not adding it thats ok just wanted to know if it was of some interest its more like a goodie to be include in the SE box. and some joke (22/629) ----- So much games...so little time.. now 425 boxed PC games. more coming ! |
Posted at 11:20 on April 10th, 2018 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Prof Gumby Posts: 486 | @Moebius >Tetris is the same as ID 1264, only HIGH file is different (both are modified, though). I have a question to you. Do you really have original package of Tetris? I have two copies of Tetris both 5.25" and 3.5" I also dumped 720KB image from 3.5" media. But SHA1 is just same as 158e91264d50b9bb2d570c447d7e99eb786c9dc4. HIGH file is dated as 01-14-2000, 04:02 AM This is Not modified because the HIGH file exists on 5.25" media with same time/year stamp. I guess you seem not to check status of disk image correctly. ----- Edited by ibmpc5150 at 11:22 on April 10th, 2018 |