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Posted at 20:24 on October 10th, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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This game looks like it might actually be a "strategy" game. Anybody know anything about it?
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Posted at 21:32 on October 10th, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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HoI is using the same engine as the Europa Universalis games. If you liked those, you'll love the game. Unfortunately for the game, it was first released with an A.I. comparable to that in Master of Orion III, and it took a large amount of patches to fix it. Unfortunately for me, I sold my copy before the game was patched, so I can't tell you how good it is now, but many people I trust keep telling me I should get a copy of the game again.
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Posted at 02:59 on October 11th, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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I'll definitely check this one out as soon as it gets cheaper...
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Posted at 08:42 on October 11th, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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This is a new game? Completely untypical. It looks a lot like a more complicated version of Risk if you ask me...
Posted at 08:54 on October 11th, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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It looks a lot like a more complicated version of Risk
That is because it is ;) Europa Universalis (the newest game I own) got a 'review' of half a page in the magazine I read then, EU2 wasn't reviewed at all and Hearts of Iron got at least 3 lines (and a rating of something in the 40s).
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Posted at 09:33 on October 11th, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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The classic German gaming magazine is back: PC Joker. Years ago, I was a regular customer of Amiga Joker, which was the first magazine about games I read. Amiga Joker ceased to exist with the decline of the Amiga, PC Joker survived some more years before it was stopped. Good old memories...

Check http://www.pc-joker.net
Posted at 11:07 on October 12th, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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By the way, does anyone know where I can get a Orig. in box version of EU2? I found a bunch of indie retailers but they only sell it in DVD case. I have a feeling I'll need the manual for this one, so I'd rather get the original.

By the way, I was surprised that Amazon wasn't selling them, how old is this game?
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Posted at 11:41 on October 12th, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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I never had a manual for EU, and I still got into it. Then again, I'm a genius, and you're just 'common folk' ;)
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Posted at 18:43 on October 12th, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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Tuss: Try here. So far I've had only positive experiences with them, even though the shipping charges are a little steep (they ship only via FedEx).
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Posted at 19:49 on October 12th, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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Hmm, I don't think the $10 extra is worth for the manual ;) Well if I don't see anything soon I'll just pick up the DVD case and read the manual on the computer.
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Posted at 01:42 on August 4th, 2004 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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You can trash the Manual, as in all these Games from Paradox Entertainment many things changes with patches, optioans are added possibilities and so on.
But once youre in the Game, you´ll love them ;-)
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Posted at 06:39 on August 4th, 2004 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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Heh - that reminds me. I actually did buy the game some time ago. Only tried it once, though, and I immediately got overrun by the enemies. I guess I tried playing it too much like EU ;)
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Posted at 02:35 on August 6th, 2004 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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Same here ;)
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Posted at 06:01 on August 6th, 2004 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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Funny thing is, I bought EU2 at the same time, and I got badly beaten by the computer there, too. There must be a few more changes than I thought...
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Posted at 14:15 on September 23rd, 2004 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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Too bad I could never got into EU2, the fact that it's a tactical game but NOT a turn based one frustrates me but I must learn, it's the only strategy game that is favored towards Ottomans.

Apart from hearts of iron there a few other games that use the EU engine; Crusader Kings and Victoria.

http://www.gamershell.com/hellzone_Strategy_Crusader_Kings.shtml?q=crusader+kings

http://www.gamershell.com/hellzone_Strategy_Victoria.shtml?q=victoria

Edited by Burseg at 22:08 on September, 23rd 2004
Posted at 14:40 on September 23rd, 2004 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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I tried playing EU2 quite a few times, everytime my inflation would start to rocket and I would fall behind in tech.

On a side note, the ottomans are strong early, but get beaten back when every I play.
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Posted at 14:46 on September 23rd, 2004 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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The worst influence on inflation is actually gold mines. While they do provide quick money, they are in the end a double-edged sword. For example, playing as the Aztecs, I could easily crush all neighbouring Indian tribes in no time, because four of the six starting sectors contain gold mines. The gold covered such a high percentage of my overall income that inflation went above the 100% mark in no time - you can imagine how that affected technology research...
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Posted at 15:31 on September 23rd, 2004 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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On a side note, the ottomans are strong early, but get beaten back when every I play.


Maybe because you aren't playing THEM ? :D

No, this wouldn't surprise me; the game looks as accurate as possible and in truth the Ottomans did reduce.
Posted at 18:28 on September 23rd, 2004 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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Yes, I tried Poland a couple of times, the only reason I was staying alive after a while was because I balanced my allies out well. The other parts of my country were shot to crap though. I went bankrupt a few times, and it's really hard to recover from that, especially when it's Poland. My mistakes that caused it too.
Then I tried Spain, and the gold there started to increase my inflation there. Plus anytime I made a change in the decentrilization, aristrocrat... etc screen, a few years later, it would force it back! Bleh.
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Posted at 05:44 on September 24th, 2004 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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I have actually managed to build the Ottomans into a large empire, ruling half of Europe, northern Africa and everything to India once. Then again, I also beat the Ottomans with the Byzantines who are hopelessly surrounded at the start of the game ;) I generally prefer playing small nations, because the larger ones require too much fussy bureaucracy in the end and diplomacy gets more important for small ones.

Edited by Mr Creosote at 13:36 on September, 24th 2004
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