The Mozilla 1.5 'suite' is out, and so are Firebird 0.7 and Thunderbird 0.3. Anyone tried them yet?

Edited by Mr Creosote at 23:16 on October, 15th 2003

Even though nobody seems to be interested in this, I'll post my own 'first experiences' with the programs.

Firebird 0.7
Options now include the important handling of MIME types (which makes one of the two extensions I used useless). The other extension I installed works fine. Firebird now also starts when Thunderbird is already running (always had to start Firebird first, and Thunderbird afterwards before). Display of sites doesn't seem to be any different, but then again, I never had any problems with 0.5 and 0.6. Downside: Not compatible with the Breeze theme (no scrollbars displayed), so it's still unusable. Back to 0.6.1.

Thunderbird 0.3
Fully compatible with 'Orbit Grey', functionality seems to be exactly the same. Site says it's a bugfix release, the only really critical bug I encountered in 0.2 is still there, though: If the default account's inbox is pretty big, a huge amount of the messages sometimes suddenly become marked as 'unread'. Replaces 0.2 fully, the adaptable anti-spam function is still promising, but there are still quirks.

Mozilla irritates me, wondering why things arent working because you forgot to type file:// pisses me off. If i had a pound for every time I'd forgotton to type file:// i'd be a rich man. Its almost as anoying as ';'. I wonder how many hours have been wasted because of a ';'? Lots, thats how many.

You would prefer to have 'file' as the default protocol of a browser instead of 'http'?

The file thing irritates the hell out of me too. All other browsers recognize that any url beginning with c:/ (or c:) has the file:// protocol. Mozilla is the only one that doesn't realize that.

Obvious lie.

It is like it is in Mozilla for a good reason: The 'big three' of the file systems (ext2, ext3 and Reiser) don't use partitions of drives to identify files, but only pathes. How is the browser supposed to recognize if what I've just typed is a path or an URL for the http protocol?

Besides, I don't really see what the 'file' part is made for anyway. Every normal person has Apache installed, so there is no need for 'file'.

Edit: I just tried it on the Windows version of Firebird on my parent's computer. Typed "c:files1.jpg" into the address bar, and it showed the file without any complaining. So much for that 'point'.

Edited by Mr Creosote at 13:04 on October, 18th 2003

When you dont do web stuff every day, and usually only do it for IE only envoirenments, things like moz needing the correct protocal on local urls pass me by when moving from an IE only envoironment to the outside world. Annoying. Dont get me wrong, im not bashing the broswer, anoyed with myself more than anything.

The new handling of MIME types sounds promising... will check the new version tomorrow.

fretz: As I already said, Firebird doesn't need the protocol for local files. I tried it on my parent's Windows computer (entering "C:dirfile") and on my own (entering "/path/to/file"), and both worked fine without me putting "file://" in front of it. I don't know what version you're using, but it must be either completely outdated or buggy if it doesn't work.

Every single version of mozilla and mozilla phoenix/firebird that I have ever tried have been the exact same way. When I try to go to a local file without putting in the file:// part, it pops up an error box saying "c is not a registered protocol". Yet if I cut&paste the exact same address into opera or IE, they recognize it as a request for a local file, and it goes right through.

Yes, because you didn't do it like I said it works two times now, but differently...

It works fine for me, too (entering "c:dirfile.gif" into the address bar).

Not that I've ever used it, but anyway...

Update: Breeze has now been made compatible with Firebird 0.7, so I've upgraded Now if I only knew what 'autoscroll' was...

Edited by Mr Creosote at 19:12 on October, 19th 2003

Urgh... it's not compatible with my current theme (Phonity Modern) at the moment, so I'll stick to 0.61 for a while...

That one's ugly anyway - no need to upgrade it

Edit: Looking over the list of all available themes again, I must say it's not that ugly - compared to all the other crap

Edited by Mr Creosote at 19:57 on October, 19th 2003

At least it's not "Win-XP-kindergarten-style" like most other themes.

You aren't talking about "Phoenity Christmas", are you?

Autoscroll is when you use a wheel mouse and middle click on the page to get the double arrow icon, then the page will automatically scroll up when you move the mouse up (and continue scrolling until you stop it), or down when you move the mouse down.

Thanks, I never knew about that option

Is the autoscroll fearture included in 0.7? So far, it was only available as an extension...