Sounds good

You lie.

No!

I just loooooove the smell of old topics in the mornin'.

I've noticed several "found" entries appeared since I last read this. I wonder, the start of this topic is now almost a year ago, and a quarter (8/31) have been found. Nice result(not being sarcastic here, actually. I'm serious). Can we do this again with a new magazine list? Maybe..as a two-monthly or so "scavenger hunt"? Might be a nice addition to the site...
Opinions, anyone?
IMO, any game we get this way is one more game saved...

Added a few more [found] tags

I was very positively surprised by the response from people (especially how many non-regulars tried helping) to this, so I wouldn't mind continuing / setting up a new list. The reason why I haven't already is just that this is very boring work. It not only involves going through magazines (of which I own many), but also checking the Internet for every single game to see whether it's actually lost or in fact readily available.

What I could imagine doing is just listing the games reviewed in each issue without further initial checking, and then everybody starting to search the net. That way, the load would be a little more balanced on more shoulders...

Personally, I'm glad you own those magazines.
The game magazines I have (few) almost all deal with NES and SNES, and almost all games are preserved.

I'm fine with the longer list. Bring it on!

Off to an easy start: the first magazine is a special called "The Best Games of 1990" - so this should be pretty common ones. As I said, I'm just listing them, so don't shrug it off as useless, because most of it is available already.

A-10 Tank Killer (PC)
Alex Kidd in Shinobi World (Master System)
Atomix (Amiga, Atari ST, C64, PC)
Austerlitz (Amiga, Atari ST, PC)
Bad Blood (PC)
Battle Squadron (Amiga)
Blades of Steel (NES)
Block Out (Amiga, Atari ST, PC)
Bonze Adventure (PC-Engine, Turbo Gfx 16)
Brain Blaster (Atari ST)
Buck Rogers (PC)
Budokan (Amiga, PC, Mega Drive)
Cadaver (Atari ST)
Chambers of Shaolin (Amiga, Atari ST, C64)
Castle Master (Amiga, Atari ST, PC)
Champions of Krynn (Amiga, PC)
Chaos Strikes Back (Atari ST)
Cobra Triangle (NES)
Coloris (Amiga)
Columns (Mega Drive)
Conquests of Camelot (Amiga, PC)
Cyberball (Amiga, Atari ST, C64, Mega Drive)
Cybercore (PC-Engine)
Damocles (Amiga, Atari ST)
Devil Crash (PC-Engine)
Don't go alone (PC)
Dragon Wars (C64, PC)
Dragon Strike (PC)
Dragonflight (Amiga, Atari ST)
E-Swat (Mega Drive)
Earthrise (PC)
F1 Triple Battle (PC-Engine, Turbo Gfx 16)
F-15 Strike Eagle II (PC)
F 19 Stealth Fighter (Amiga, Atari ST, C64, PC)
F 29 Retaliator (Amiga)
Faxanadu (NES)
Flight of the Intruder (PC)
Flood (Amiga, Atari ST)
Ghouls 'n' Ghosts (Amiga, Atari ST, C64, Mega Drive)
Golden Axe (Master System, Mega Drive)
Gunboat (PC)
Hero's Quest (Amiga, Atari ST, PC)
Image Fight (PC-Engine)
The Immortal (Amiga, Atari ST)
Imperium (Atari ST)
Indianapolis 500 (Amiga, PC)
Interphase (Amiga)
It came from the Desert (Amiga)
Italy 1990 (Amiga, Atari ST, C64, PC)
Kings Bounty (PC)
Klax (Amiga, Atari ST, C64, PC, PC-Engine)
Kujaki-Oh 2 / Mystic Defender (Mega Drive)
Leisure Suit Larry 3 (Amiga, PC)
Search for the King (PC)
LHX Attack Chopper (PC)
Loopz (Atari ST)
M1 Tank Platoon (PC)
Mr. Heli (Amiga, Atari ST, C64, PC-Engine)
Ninja Spirit (Amiga, Atari ST, C64, PC-Engine)
Nuclear War (Amiga, PC)
Operation Stealth (Amiga, Atari ST)
Paradroid 90 (Amiga, Atari ST)
PC Gengin (PC-Engine)
PGA Tour Golf (PC)
Phantasy Star II (Mega Drive)
Pipe Mania (Amiga, Atari ST, C64, PC)
Player Manager (Amiga, Atari ST)
Probotector (NES)
Projectyle (Amiga, Atari ST)
Puzznic (PC-Engine, PC)
Ra (Amiga)
Railroad Tycoon (PC)
Rainbow Islands (Amiga, Atari ST, C64)
Rambo III (Mega Drive)
Rick Dangerous 2 (Amiga, Atari ST)
Rings of Medusa (Amiga, Atari ST, PC)
Secret of the Silver Blades (C64, PC)
Sherman M4 (Amiga, Atari ST, PC)
Silent Service II (PC)
Simulcra (Amiga, Atari ST)
Ski or Die (C64, PC)
Starflight (Amiga, C64, PC, Atari ST)
Starflight II (PC)
Stunt Driver / Crash Course (PC)
Super Shinobi (Mega Drive)
Super Wonderboy in Monsterland (Atari ST, Amiga, C64, Master System, PC-Engine)
Switchblade (Amiga, Atari ST, C64)
Sword of the Samurai (PC)
Tatsujin / Truxton (Mega Drive)
The Cycles (Amiga, PC)
Thunder Force III (Mega Drive)
Tie-Break (Amiga, Atari ST, C64)
Time Soldiers (Amiga, Atari ST, C64, Master System)
Turrican (Amiga, C64)
TV Sports Basketball (Amiga)
Ultima VI (PC)
Vaxine (Amiga, Atari ST)
Wings of Death (Amiga, Atari ST)
Wings (Amiga)
Wonderland (PC)

The titles which aren't linked to any site don't seem to be listed in the general databases I know about.

Edited by Mr Creosote at 23:51 on March, 11th 2005

Well, here's the easiest ones: Starflight I (for PC, Mac, Amiga, and C64) andd Starflight II (for PC, Mac, and Amiga) are at

http://www.starflight3.net

as well as some demos for a proposed sequel and links to other sites hosting the game and various real or proposed remakes. HOTU also has them, so these two aren't in immediate danger of disappearing.

Sadly, the Starflight 3 page looks a bit moribund -- it was last updated back in August and most of the links are even older; the proposed game itself has yet to appear after six years of work. There is, however, an active forum for game fans and developers.

-ming

"Devil Crash" for PC-Engine was also released as "Devil's Crush". The Mega Drive version is called "Devil Crash" or "Dragon's Fury".

http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/p,16/gameId,7487/
http://www.totalgames.net/pma/20182
http://www.mameworld.net/retroview/sega/dfury.htm

I've got the Mega Drive version. Seems to be a mediocre pinball game.

Edited by Tapuak at 21:11 on March, 11th 2005

Thanks, I've added all that information to the post plus links to the games we have for download on our own site

"Devil Crash" and "Dragon's Fury" are definitely the same game as "Devil Crash" judging from the reviews and screenshots, however, I'm wondering why there isn't any mention of the PC Engine version which they reviewed in that magazine...

Going great so far! only six left to go!

Bonze Adventure (PC-Engine)
Cybercore (PC-Engine)
F1 Triple Battle (PC-Engine)
Image Fight (PC-Engine)
Kujaki-Oh 2 / Mystic Defender (Mega Drive)
PC Gengin (PC-Engine)

I'm sure I had Mystic Defender-until I lost all my megadrive-games in a system crash/reinstall kind of situation

Image fight:

http://www.klov.com/game_detail.php?game_id=8181

Cybercore can be found on classicgaming.com

http://www.classicgaming.com/thedump/tg16/whatsold.htm

F1 Triple Battle can be found here:
http://www.bhlegend.com/php/show.php3?game=953

According to this page Mystic Defender is built into MAME:
http://caesar.logiqx.com/html/emus/multi/mame/mt_mystd.shtml
and if we don't believe that, I just downloaded it from here:
http://www.romnation.net/srv/download/rom/19492/genesis/Mystic-Defender-REV-00-JUE-h2.html

Here's one version of Bonze Adventure,
http://www.bhlegend.com/php/show.php3?game=1013
Again, built into MAME as well.

Info on PC Gengin(German):
http://www.kultpower.de/powerplay_testbericht_extern.php3?im=pcgengin.jpg
Hmmm, no easily found download link for this one...however, the gameboy version(called gb gengin) seems readily available.

[edited for the sake of better readability -Mr Creosote]

Edited by Mr Creosote at 23:52 on March, 11th 2005

Six left to find information about - we still need to determine whether they're available anywhere.

"PC Gengin" looks like what I commonly know as "Bonk" or "BC Kid". In fact, the screenshots in the magazine show situations I remember from BC Kid on the Amiga, so I guess it's the same game (link added).

Image Fight and Mystic Defender link added.

Cybercore: Can't figure that site out. Although it says the game has been added, I can't locate it.

F1 Triple Battle, Bonze Adventure: Different system again, but link added, of course.

Edited by Mr Creosote at 23:52 on March, 11th 2005

Sadly, no other link for Cybercore(alternate name: cyber core or cyber-core) to be found.

I've copied your game list here and will post download links under them(or just the sites)
A-10 Tank Killer (PC)
*found at hotud
Alex Kidd in Shinobi World (Master System)
*http://www.abandonrom.co.uk/game.php?gid=1
Atomix (Amiga, Atari ST, C64, PC)
*found at hotud
Austerlitz (Amiga, Atari ST, PC)
*found at hotud
Bad Blood (PC)
*found at hotud
Battle Squadron (Amiga)
http://amigos.amiga.hu/ancientoys/b.html
Blades of Steel (NES)
*found at hotud
Block Out (Amiga, Atari ST, PC)
http://www.dosgamesonline.com/index/game/Block-out/38/
Bonze Adventure (PC-Engine, Turbo Gfx 16)
*see previous post
Brain Blaster (Atari ST)
*can't find this one this fast
Buck Rogers (PC)
*which buck rogers game?
Budokan (Amiga, PC, Mega Drive)
*found at hotud
Cadaver (Atari ST)
*http://atariste.free.fr/cadaver.html
Chambers of Shaolin (Amiga, Atari ST, C64)
Castle Master (Amiga, Atari ST, PC)
http://www.cus.org.uk/~alexh/games/cos/credits/credits.html
Champions of Krynn (Amiga, PC)
*found at hotud
Chaos Strikes Back (Atari ST)
*found at hotud
Cobra Triangle (NES)
http://www.nes.com.br/dicas/downloads.htm
Coloris (Amiga)
*can't find it this fast
Columns (Mega Drive)
http://www.bhlegend.com/php/show.php3?game=818
Conquests of Camelot (Amiga, PC)
*found at hotud
Cyberball (Amiga, Atari ST, C64, Mega Drive)
*www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Zone/1894/roms.html
Cybercore (PC-Engine)
*see previous post
Damocles (Amiga, Atari ST)
*can't find it this fast, remake at HOTUD
Devil Crash (PC-Engine)
Don't go alone (PC)
*found at hotud
Dragon Wars (C64, PC)
*found at hotud
Dragon Strike (PC)
*found at hotud
Dragonflight (Amiga, Atari ST)
*can't find it this fast
E-Swat (Mega Drive)
http://cpczone.emuunlim.com/covers.php?sortorder=E
Earthrise (PC)
*found at hotud
F1 Triple Battle (PC-Engine, Turbo Gfx 16)
*already been posted
F-15 Strike Eagle II (PC)
*found at hotud
F 19 Stealth Fighter (Amiga, Atari ST, C64, PC)
*found at hotud
F 29 Retaliator (Amiga)
*found at hotud
Faxanadu (NES)
*Strangely, couldn't find a direct link.
Flight of the Intruder (PC)
*found at hotud
Flood (Amiga, Atari ST)
*not yet found, I'm bad at atari game finding)
Ghouls 'n' Ghosts (Amiga, Atari ST, C64, Mega Drive)
*http://www.classicgaming.com/rotw/ghosts/
*I have it
Golden Axe (Master System, Mega Drive)
*I have it
Gunboat (PC)
*HOTUD has it
Hero's Quest (Amiga, Atari ST, PC)
*is it this one? http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?gameid=504
Image Fight (PC-Engine)
*posted about it...
The Immortal (Amiga, Atari ST)
*www.abandonia.com/game.php?ID=399
Imperium (Atari ST)
*HOTUD has pc version
Indianapolis 500 (Amiga, PC)
*HOTUD again...
Interphase (Amiga)
*HOTUD has a pc version
It came from the Desert (Amiga)
*TGOD has it...
Italy 1990 (Amiga, Atari ST, C64, PC)
*HOTUD has it, aka world class soccer
Kings Bounty (PC)
Klax (Amiga, Atari ST, C64, PC, PC-Engine)
Kujaki-Oh 2 / Mystic Defender (Mega Drive)
Leisure Suit Larry 3 (Amiga, PC)
Search for the King (PC)
LHX Attack Chopper (PC)
Loopz (Atari ST)
M1 Tank Platoon (PC)
Mr. Heli (Amiga, Atari ST, C64, PC-Engine)
Ninja Spirit (Amiga, Atari ST, C64, PC-Engine)
Nuclear War (Amiga, PC)
Operation Stealth (Amiga, Atari ST)
Paradroid 90 (Amiga, Atari ST)
PC Gengin (PC-Engine)
PGA Tour Golf (PC)
Phantasy Star II (Mega Drive)
Pipe Mania (Amiga, Atari ST, C64, PC)
Player Manager (Amiga, Atari ST)
Probotector (NES)
Projectyle (Amiga, Atari ST)
Puzznic (PC-Engine, PC)
Ra (Amiga)
Railroad Tycoon (PC)
Rainbow Islands (Amiga, Atari ST, C64)
Rambo III (Mega Drive)
Rick Dangerous 2 (Amiga, Atari ST)
Rings of Medusa (Amiga, Atari ST, PC)
Secret of the Silver Blades (C64, PC)
Sherman M4 (Amiga, Atari ST, PC)
Silent Service II (PC)
Simulcra (Amiga, Atari ST)
Ski or Die (C64, PC)
Starflight (Amiga, C64, PC, Atari ST)
Starflight II (PC)
Stunt Driver / Crash Course (PC)
Super Shinobi (Mega Drive)
Super Wonderboy in Monsterland (Atari ST, Amiga, C64, Master System, PC-Engine)
Switchblade (Amiga, Atari ST, C64)
Sword of the Samurai (PC)
Tatsujin / Truxton (Mega Drive)
The Cycles (Amiga, PC)
Thunder Force III (Mega Drive)
Tie-Break (Amiga, Atari ST, C64)
Time Soldiers (Amiga, Atari ST, C64, Master System)
Turrican (Amiga, C64)
TV Sports Basketball (Amiga)
Ultima VI (PC)
Vaxine (Amiga, Atari ST)
Wings of Death (Amiga, Atari ST)
Wings (Amiga)
Wonderland (PC)

Edited by Johann67 at 00:46 on March, 11th 2005

We got quite far already. I desperately need to come up with a better technical system to manage these 'game entries', though. Editing posts back and forth here in the forum is a pain with such long lists. That doesn't mean you should stop looking, of course

Turbo Grafx is almost the same as a PC Engine. Both are from NEC and had mostly the same games, as far as I know. The different names are due to regional distributions.



The second link I posted describes the PC Engine version. What's the difference?

There are a lot of versions missing from the list, I noticed.

I propose that we consider a game "found" once we have a working version for at least one system, unless there is strong evidence that versions differ significantly.
More are always good, but then we run the risk of looking forever for new versions.

Phew, going to bed now...I've done everything up to K.
By the way, lots of praise to HOTUD. They seem to have over half the games on the list!

So is it almost the same, or exactly the same with just different names (like SNES / Super Famicom)?

The one the link is going to...

No, again, check the link - it's the first game of what later became 'Quest for Glory'.

Not the same game.

That's a fanmade remake, not the original game.

Added to 'information', since the game itself isn't available there.

Can't identify the system, so I'm not sure where to list it.

Can't find it there?

I disagree, but that shouldn't stop you from setting your own priorities

Here's a little frontend I made for this game search: http://goodolddays.net/lostgames.php. Regular administration logins work there, too. Mind you it hasn't been done to be overly userfriendly. Some syntax stuff isn't too intuitive, but it beats list handling in the forum any day.

The 'lost' list works exactly as you proposed: As soon as there's one link for any system, a game won't turn up there anymore. What I don't know yet is how to handle private collections. I'm sure I have most of these games lying around on 'dump' CDs here, but that doesn't make them available to the public, so it has to be treated differently. Any ideas?

Edited by Mr Creosote at 17:09 on March, 12th 2005

Here's a game which could very well actually be lost: Moon Child (referenced on the bottom part of the page). Here's a Dutch review.

Moonchild is now available for pocket pc at the site from the review. I think you'd need to contact the site owner to get info on the original game. Maybe he even has a working version.

I had the same problem with don't go alone, and then I tried google.
http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?id=322
Must be a bug...

Shall we make this tread a news entry? we might get a lot of extra help that way!

Edited by Johann67 at 19:26 on March, 12th 2005

Sure, you can make a newspost about it, but I wouldn't expect any response. You know how passive people are. We should better find a way to deal with games not available online, but being present in private collections, though.

Edited by Mr Creosote at 00:18 on March, 12th 2005