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Posted at 12:40 on September 10th, 2002 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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Hotmail, Expedia, Orbitz, PayPal, eBay, to name a few ;)
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Posted at 12:41 on September 10th, 2002 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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Well, I don't exactly keep a log of them around, the most recent error I got was when opening the Guide To Mozilla 1.0

This one appears to display correctly but with an error while loading... I know this is just one example, but I'm not talking about places I regularly visit, just by searching the net daily looking for (possibly) interesting stuff I get comparable errors about 50 times a day :)
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Posted at 12:43 on September 10th, 2002 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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I'm using ebay and PayPal all the time with Opera. Could you tell me what is supposed not to work with it? Same with this Mozilla guide: working perfectly. The other sites, I don't know or have no desire to use them (Hotmail).

edit: saw the error on the Mozilla page now, but it doesn't seem to prevent complete functionality.

Edited by Mr Creosote at 14:45 on September, 10th 2002
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Posted at 12:50 on September 10th, 2002 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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I had opera5x and currently have opera6x on my system. Opera 5 had problems on at least 50% of the sites I went to. Opera 6 is down to about 30%. Which is still distinctly higher than the <10% that I run into with mozilla or any IE based browser. The only recent browser I've seen that has more difficulty with sites than opera is the off by one browser (which, while it has some intriguing features, is at about the level of the now discontiued mosaic browser).

Mozilla/multizilla is my preferred browser, crazy browser is my second choice. I have k-meleon setup as my default browser when opening local html pages because it loads in the blink of an eye, I also use it and opera6 as backup/emergency browsers, browsers which I use if/when all other browsers aren't functioning properly, when I'm trying to figure out if a problem I'm experiencing is with the browers or something else, and if/when I'm checking a page to see how it displays in different browsers.

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What I like about Opera, though, is the fact that if I test a page there, it is most likely to be fully functional with any other major browser...

Yep, using the lowest common denominator will work every time. ;)
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Posted at 12:54 on September 10th, 2002 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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Mr Creosote: It refuses to keep me logged in at PayPal. I can't complete a single transaction, as Opera logs me out all the time.

Cypherswipe: The downside is that I don't really care how my pages look in other browsers; I consider MSIE users to be inferior ;).
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Posted at 12:57 on September 10th, 2002 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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ND- Yeah, that's why I'm a mozilla user. :D I do wish other browsers would support IE filters though, ones like glow.
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Posted at 12:59 on September 10th, 2002 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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Cypherswipe: Seriously, you must be doing something wrong then! In Opera 5 and Opera 6 (which both seem to be identical displaying websites, only a few more features in the newer version), less than 1% or all websites I'm visiting are making problems! Nowhere near your 50%, 30% or even 10%!

NetDanzr: It's working for me, and yes, I have third-party cookies disabled, too.
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Posted at 13:02 on September 10th, 2002 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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Cypherswipe: And did I mention that while MSIE users are inferior, I consider Mozilla users to be masochistic? ;)
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Posted at 13:26 on September 10th, 2002 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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While we're at it: how can I delete cookies in Opera?
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Posted at 13:40 on September 10th, 2002 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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You can't: http://www.opera.com/support/supsearch/supsearch.cgi?index=350
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Posted at 13:43 on September 10th, 2002 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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Wow, that's lame! What if I delete that whole file? All cookies should be deleted then, but can the browser create the file again afterwards? I.e.: will cookies ever work again then?
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Posted at 13:52 on September 10th, 2002 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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You can always reinstall the browser afterwards... What porn site sis you sign up for this time? ;)
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Posted at 13:56 on September 10th, 2002 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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Actually, this time it was a lot more harmless problem: I couldn't log out of 'my' other board anymore. Turned out I had just set the wrong cookie domain, so I already solved the initial problem. Still, it's interesting to have discovered this major flaw in Opera :cunning:
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Posted at 18:24 on September 10th, 2002 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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Well, I have Mozilla up and running (without Multizilla for now) and it does handle the http://stubru.be page correctly, but takes incredibly long to load when comparing to IE... So either the browser itself is abnormally slow, or the system requirements are too high for me (as I had feared :()

I'm currently on a P3-900 with 128MB RAM, and I know that my sytem is far from bleeding edge, but I think it should be capable to surf the net at acceptable speeds... Well, guess I'll try K-Meleon then :P
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Posted at 19:36 on September 10th, 2002 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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Long to load webpages or long to load the prog itself? IE loads the prog fast because it never fully closes it. Webpages really shouldn't load any slower in moz than in IE. :confused:

K-meleon is very light in features and doesn't have tabs, but it is very small and fast.
2 other options are "crazy browser" and "MyIE2". Both use the IE engine, but add features like tabs and popup blocking. Both are pretty small and should run at normal speed on most systems.
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Posted at 19:49 on September 10th, 2002 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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Longer to load webpages... I could be looking at this with some prejudice, but the difference is pretty clear: when I load that page in IE it goes blank for about a second or two and then it's there... in Mozilla I get to see the background first, then the text, then little icons where the images will be and so on, and this whole process takes at least 10 seconds in total...

Of course, unlike Opera, it does the job :) and appears to be a very solid browser... But Opera is still the most intuitive and easy to use in my opinion...

If K-Meleon doesn't have tabbed browsing I guess that's not really a solution either, and using the IE engine would mean having the same security flaws as MSIE, or am I wrong?
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Posted at 04:16 on September 11th, 2002 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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Mole: you should check the cache options of the two browsers. It sounds a lot as if you have some kind of cache disabled in Mozilla.

I'm using Mozilla on a P2/300 with 96 MB RAM and it's running fine. Your system should be more than enough ;)

All 'IE-skins' of course have the same security flaws. It is not advisable to use them.
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Posted at 05:49 on September 11th, 2002 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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Okay, the speed problem apparently just fixed itself... Seems like Mozilla decided to cache the page after about ten loads or so :) Still haven't found the caching settings though (in neither Opera or Mozilla) but hey, everything seems to be working fine now :)

Now comes the tricky part, getting used to Mozilla's interface... If I manage to do this (I don't adapt easily :)) it will probably become my main browser so thanks again to all of you for the advice...
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Posted at 05:51 on September 11th, 2002 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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Opera: File - Preferences - History and Cache
Mozilla: Edit - Preferences - Advanced - Cache
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Posted at 05:52 on September 11th, 2002 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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Okay, thanks...

Talk about missing the obvious :embarassed:
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